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Pirated and unattributed content

So I encountered my first case of pirate/unattributed content on this Youtube channel Singularity Videos.

I would argue at least with Changesurfer Radio he's doing a public service by disseminating content on the reliable host that is Youtube, rather than its native hard to browse mp3 format.

However this now forces H+Pedia to think about positions on such content. My personal view is that it's okay to create a channel like that if:

• The content doesn't already exist on Youtube
• Credit to the original sources are fully made
• Permission is asked for and not actively declined

This puts me in the odd position of acting as transhumanist content police, because now I might have to inform James Hughes about this. He in turn may or may not mind.

Thoughts? Deku-shrub (talk) 11:53, 1 January 2016 (CST)

Section developement

I wanted an intersections section but don't feel it's ready yet. Would feature:

Intersections • Comparison of futurist ideologies • ( Politics | Anarcho-Transhumanism | Technolibertarianism | Technoprogressivism ) • Religion • Feminism • Business

Deku-shrub (talk) 13:43, 4 February 2018 (CST)

I'm thinking a dedicated subsection on Futurism would make sense also Deku-shrub (talk) 12:13, 8 April 2018 (CDT)

Possibly a dedicated futurist section too Deku-shrub (talk) 16:59, 16 May 2018 (CDT)

Mobile updates

I've installed MobileFrontend which detects if you're on a mobile sized device.

If so, it switches to the skin Minerva Neue which is mobile optimised.

Importantly, some pages may need refactoring, like with the homepage changes. MediaWiki generic guide I followed. Deku-shrub (talk) 14:28, 24 February 2018 (CST)

1.30 Upgrades

I upgraded to the latest version of Mediawiki to get mobile to skins to work.

Snag list:

• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NoTitle has stopped working - oh it is working
• https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Widgets has stopped working :(
  • Experiencing this issue
  • Temporary changes to the Facebook and Twitter until this is fixed
    • Fixed! Deku-shrub (talk) 16:32, 7 March 2018 (CST)
• <recent> has stopped working - might need https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newest_Pages - fixed
• <random> has stopped working - fixed with a minor alignment bug I can't easily fix

Please report any other issues!

Deku-shrub (talk) 14:38, 24 February 2018 (CST)

Intro Paragraph

I think that the intro paragraph could be streamlined to read:

H+Pedia is a Humanity+ project to spread accurate, accessible, non-sensational information about transhumanism among the general public. H+Pedia is also an opportunity for transhumanists, and other radical life extensionists and futurists to work together, thereby strengthening the world transhumanist community.

We currently have 2,308 pages of all types, of which 936 are articles, and have 294 files uploaded. 18,102 edits have been made from 14 active users.

H+Pedia welcomes financial donations, to fund prize competitions that will encourage more people to become involved in the project. Natasha (talk) 16:24, 27 February 2018 (CST)

Good question! I've moved this question to the new mailing list for further discussion, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/hpluspedia/ueLCv8jViJ8 --David W. Wood (talk) 04:34, 3 March 2018 (CST)

Manual of Style

As described in WP:MOS on Wikipedia, I haven't capitalized job titles (unless immediately followed by name), but noted examples in place on several articles. Going through the diffs, it looks like this can be attributed to TranshumanTees.

I modified “FM-2030 was a Futurist, Philosopher and Transhumanist. He was also an Athlete, Author, Consultant and Teacher” to read
“FM-2030 (October 15, 1930 – July 8, 2000) was a Belgian-born Iranian-American author, teacher, transhumanist philosopher, futurist, consultant and athlete.”

Deku-shrub, please let me know which of the two conventions should be kept in place going forward.

Cheers, Babelfish (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2018 (CST)

Nah, they shouldn't be capitalized, thanks for spotting. Also I have H+Pedia:Manual of style Deku-shrub (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2018 (CST)

Category: Effective Altruists

Perhaps it would be a good idea to create a people category for Effective Altruists? I looked for it, but only found Less Wrong. – Cheers, Babelfish (talk) 11:02, 5 March 2018 (CST)

Do it. The worst that can happen is that it only has a handful of people in it. Also you get to ask the question, are all effective altruists futurists? Deku-shrub (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2018 (CST)

Cloudflare

It turns out that we're not actually correctly behind Cloudflare. Sitegrounds integrates poorly via CNAMES, thus www.hpluspedia.org is on Cloudflare, but hpluspedia.org isn't. We'll need to move out the name servers to Cloudflare before this will work Deku-shrub (talk) 07:27, 9 March 2018 (CST)

Web browser icon

It would be good to use the h+ symbol as a web browser site icon to distinguish it from other tabs. Not sure where the config options are for it... — Cheers,– Babelfish (talk) 09:28, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

There used to be a small icon in place for exactly this purpose. That connection must have become unintentionally broken at some point. When I get a moment, I'll look into the history. --David W. Wood (talk) 11:32, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

Later... I've remembered how this is supposed to work. There needs to be a file favicon.ico on the root directory of the server. I used http://genfavicon.com/ to generate one. It's in place now, though in the process the transparent background has unexpectedly turned into opaque white. I think that must be a bug/feature of the genfavicon tool. Note also that I initially created a .ico that was 128x128, but that seemed not to be picked up by the mediawiki software. But when I regenerated it as 64x64, the mediawiki software seems happier. --David W. Wood (talk) 16:53, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

Isn't this working correctly? https://hpluspedia.org/favicon.ico Deku-shrub (talk) 16:54, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

That's the file I uploaded earlier this evening. (There was no such file on the server when I checked, beforehand.) It's included as expected in the Chrome tab header. But it has an opaque background, in contrast to most of the other favicons I see in my browser tab headers David W. Wood (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

Didn't realise you did it! A little work will be needed to make the background transparent still Deku-shrub (talk) 19:07, 13 March 2018 (CDT)

Thanks! Babelfish (talk) 12:10, 14 March 2018 (CDT)

Image links

What's the Wikicode equivalent to direct a mouse click on an image to a particular link, rather than to the corresponding image page? This might be useful for featured articles on the front page, where the image presents the largest target. Thanks! Cheers, — Babelfish (talk) 11:57, 22 March 2018 (CDT)

e.g.

<a href="target.html">
<img src="image.jpg">
</a>

This should help you https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images Deku-shrub (talk) 05:52, 23 April 2018 (CDT)

Autoconfirmed groups

We need a way of (automatically) promoting proven users into a group which can e.g. bypass external link captchas Deku-shrub (talk) 05:52, 23 April 2018 (CDT)

I'd appreciate it if this could include the ability to rename files and pages—to repair capitalization on this file, for example: File:Mauna_kea_2.jpg --> File:Mauna Kea2.jpg. Thanks, Babelfish (talk) 08:08, 24 April 2018 (CDT)

If you have the time ( I don't right now ) if you could design a more trusted user group, I'll set it up and promote you and others into it. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights Deku-shrub (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2018 (CDT)

VisualEditor

Is there a straightforward way to implement VisualEditor and/or color-coded source code to the site? Thanks, Babelfish (talk) 09:01, 29 April 2018 (CDT)

+1. I'd love to know the answer. Lack of yisual editing may be a major factor preventing some people from becoming active editors/contributors to this site. David W. Wood (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2018 (CDT)

Given we've just upgraded, now is a very good time to try it out. However it's technically challenging, time to get a test instance up this time https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor Deku-shrub (talk)

Gateway timeout

I've been unable to make a lot of edits because I keep getting a gateway timeout upon submission of the publish button. It's always happened, but usually could get around it by resubmitting a few times. More recently even that has failed to work. Are there any settings that can be changed on either end of the transmission to prevent the impediment to contribution?

Thanks, Babelfish (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2018 (CDT)

Any patterns? Times of days, size of submissions? Deku-shrub (talk) 05:10, 10 June 2018 (CDT)

Any time of day. Any edits to this article. This Talk:Main Page page works fine. Perhaps related to size. How to find workaround? I've tried the mobile interface limited to one section at a time to no avail. Thanks, Babelfish (talk) 10:58, 10 June 2018 (CDT)