: '''Ian Ground:''' I'm pleased to hear the last part that Aubrey said, because it '''''sounded to me like a public disavow of the immortalists and the transhumanists who follow him''''' .
: '''Aubrey de Grey:''' I have actually -- that's right . I've actually said . I was actually the first recipient of something called the H.G . Wells award for outstanding contributions to transhumanism, which was awarded to me by someone --
: '''John Donvan:''' You got that.
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