Talk:History of transhumanism

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Less Wrong

I don't think 'where discussion on artificial intelligence culminates in the infamous thought experiment, Roko's Basilik and banning of its discussion on the forums.' is a very charitable characterization of LW's impact. I understand some editors here don't like EY or LW, but should that really reflect in the content of this wiki which supposedly tries to remain objective?

Hi Adam - On wiki talk pages, it makes the conversations easier to follow if contributors append their signatures, using four tildes ~~~~, just like I'm doing now: David W. Wood (talk) 05:45, 13 September 2018 (CDT)
I'm not aware of any dislike of EY (Eliezer) or LW (Less Wrong) by any of the usual contributors.
As you can see, there's more to the LessWrong page than discussion of Roko's Bisilik.
And there are plenty of positive references to Eliezer's work throughout H+Pedia.
Of course, many of the articles are far from complete. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide to flesh them out. David W. Wood (talk) 05:47, 13 September 2018 (CDT)

1927

I'm not convinced that Julian Huxley used the word "transhumanism" as early as 1927. The quote in question can be traced to 1957, https://archive.org/details/NewBottlesForNewWine, but not to 1927. The evidence for the 1927 date is the history document by Nick Bostrom, which in turn refers to the book by James Hughes. But the trail goes cold there. David W. Wood (talk) 17:27, 13 June 2017 (CDT)

Hmmm, things to indeed appear to support 1957 rather than 1927. Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact Religion Without Revelation was published both in 1927 and 1957? Nick could have erred and mis-attributed to the first addition, or copied James' error? TBH the History of Transhumanist Thought is due an update, checking page 24 for instance, some non-publication notes are clearly visible. I wonder whether Nick would be interested in collaboration on a new edition, better capturing the rise of the longevity movement, biohackers, politics and singularitarians? Though that's more Hugh's area. I'm going to move to 1957 with a note in the mean time. Deku-shrub (talk) 18:08, 13 June 2017 (CDT)

These researchers are certain Citizen Cyborg, A History of Transhumanist Thought and others made a mistake with the 1927 date. Deku-shrub (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2018 (CDT)

WD Lighthall

Apparently coined the term. Need to dig into this https://www.battleofideas.org.uk/session/transhumanism-who-wants-to-live-forever/ Deku-shrub (talk) 17:41, 26 August 2018 (CDT)

For reference to WD Lighthall see https://www.academia.edu/13997038/History_of_transhumanism David W. Wood (talk) 09:47, 28 August 2018 (CDT)
I wrote this as succiently as I could:
W. D. Lighthall is the first person known to use the word 'transhumanism'. He writes of '[St] Paul's Transhumanism' possibly in a homage to a 'transhuman change', a heavenwards journey featured in the 1814 English translation of Dante’s Divine Comedy.
Deku-shrub (talk) 17:35, 28 August 2018 (CDT)
That looks good David W. Wood (talk) 08:13, 29 August 2018 (CDT)